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Hello Mark and folks, Today I heard the first part of your show with Lt. Col. Grossman on the AM dial while traveling across Kansas and I have some comments and questions for ya’ll. As some background, I’m a middle-class, non-gun owning moderate who has enjoyed target shooting with shotguns and .22 rifles with my father.
First of all, you asked, rhetorically, how the gun-free zone in our schools worked out. Obviously, seeing as how easy it was for Lanza to get his mother’s legally owned guns, it didn’t work at all. The problem we are all facing right now is how to prevent these massacres (as Lt. Col. Grossman rightfully called them). Your solution, as well as the NRA’s, is to arm the teachers, provide armed guards in the schools, and arm the parents. Is that really the best, or only solution that you can come up with? It’s not difficult to extrapolate the results of such a situation. Lanza, for whatever reason he decided to shoot up a school, now expecting the teacher to be armed, will slip into a classroom, off the teacher, then kill a number of children before the guard or another teacher can kill him. So instead of 26 dead, we have maybe 10 or so. Roberts, expecting to meet resistance, would invest in some body armor and likely still manage to murder a couple of people before someone took him out. And Loughner still would have opened fire exactly as he did because he was set on killing Giffords. Add to that the increase in deaths from accidents due to lax gun safety and maybe you would reduce the body count a little bit, but there would still be a body count.
So let’s travel up the tree of causality a little to the level of implantation, i.e. the guns used in the attacks. What would you, and the gun enthusiast community, recommend that we, as a society, do to prevent these massacres so that we can reach “the crime that is never committed”? Are there steps that dealers could take to keep these weapons out of the hands of the deranged? What about individual, gun-owning citizens? Lanza and Roberts stole their weapons from legal owners.
Second, let’s try to get to the root of the causality tree and figure out if there is any way to keep these bastards from *wanting* to kill innocent folks. This also ties in with morality, which you briefly mentioned in your show, wondering if morals exist in our society. Look, anyone who reads your website or listens to the show fully understands that your primary job is to encourage fear and anger in order to drive gun sales for the various dealers and manufacturers. But is it really moral, really *right* and *just* to use these deaths for financial gain? I certainly moral to discuss the issues surrounding the deaths in a civil manner in the hopes that we can prevent such tragedies in the future, and if you call that politicizing, so be it.
I have to call bull@#%$ on your comments, Mark, about liberals and moderates not caring about the children. The only purpose of such a statement is to inflame your listeners into plunking down some cash for an AR15. Of COURSE we all care about the kids and feel horrendous that this happened. So please, be honest and cut the useless vitriol (though you do Limbaugh proud). And Lt. Col. Grossman’s comments about the power-mad socialists who want to strip away everyone’s rights is patent bull#%$ as well. Sure, there may be a few hippie communists running around, just as there are right-wing anarchists who want to be able to shoot someone who cuts them off on the freeway without repercussions. But 99.999999% of the country falls closer to the middle where we want a balanced the government handles some things for us (military protection, adjudication, and some social services) while leaving us to make intelligent or stupid choices on our own. Gun control, as most of us see it, has nothing to do with power or control over your minds. It’s simply about trying to make it more difficult for criminals and mentally deranged people from getting a hold of weapons. Most of us realize, and support the responsible ownership and carrying of firearms, but we’re also rational in that we acknowledge that there are *some* people out there who shouldn’t be allowed access.
So please cut the crap, stop trying to divide us to the extent where the Loughners of the world decide that it’s right to do whatever is necessary to stop “the other side”. Try giving us some constructive advice on what we can all do to prevent these murders instead of whining about the government. We’re all in this together and yeah, we can’t all “just get along” as you said Mark, but we can try to be civil in our differences and try to reach some common ground. That is what I believe is moral and what is great about America.
Hello Mark,
I’ve enjoyed listening to the podcasts of your show. I agree with much of what you and your guests discuss but not all.
The increase in our young people going out and committing mass murder is in part out of ignorance. Our children, for the most part, are learning about firearms and their improper uses from holywood. Firearm usage is ubiquitus in our entertainment. Children are children are larning everything they know from TV and the movies.
The BEST solution to the problem is simple education. Start teaching proper safety and handling of firearms in the school. Like sex education, which was fought against tooth and nail by various groups, cut down on the unwanted pregnancy and related disease rate. The same applies with firearms. Most don’t get proper training until they enter the military. It is too late.
The NRA has it wrong with police officers in every school. It would cost a mint and accomplish little. Train and arm the teachers and staff and start teaching the kids proper handling of firearms and these mass killings will simply not happen.
Familiarity with the proper handling and safety with firearms at the school age will stop the disarming of this country. Much of the antigun leagues are powerful because of the general ignorance. Education, especially at a young age, is the cure too all these problems and harms nobody.
It appears that constitutional law (state or federal) is often supreceeded by more recently enacted laws instead of the other way round making constitutional law virtually meaningless except as a point of arguement.
Law, in all forms, is really a social contract. It accomplishes nothing without the society behind it. Too many people forget this.
I hate these estamates of the number of guns in the US. Those numbers are generally bogus. They don’t cover the vast number that are stolen and passed around from there. They don’t cover the pre 1968 gun laws that people own and handed down to their children. I’m am sure that there are other sources that are not part of the count from private sale and so on. There is likely enough guns to arm every man, woman, and child in the country. We are a majority and not the other way round that the government and press wish us to beleive.
And really, you carry a Glock? There’s better stuff out there.
A few more notes about morality that I forgot to post last night. From LaPierre’s speech: “But since when did the word “gun” automatically become a bad word? … So why is the idea of a gun good when it’s used to protect our President or our country or our police, but bad when it’s used to protect our children in their schools?”
A gun is one of the few tools intentionally designed to kill human beings or animals. The last time I checked, taking another’s life, depriving them of liberty, is almost always immoral. For the religious, “Thou shalt not kill”, or “You shall not murder”. Thus, guns, being tools intended to be used for killing or murder, are intrinsically immoral. Now we know that criminals or oppressive governments will use guns against innocent folks, hence we determine that using a firearm in self-defense is moral. But seeing as how guns are meant to take a life, they should be used ONLY as a measure of last resort. E.g., if a militia or military is attacking, you and your fellow citizens are morally right to defend yourself with whatever firepower you can muster (such as the folks in Syria). However, if a congress person wants to increase taxes to pay down the debt, is it moral to attack said congress person because you think their tax isn’t just? It was moral to take up arms against the British when we sought to break away due to a lack of representation, but it was incredibly immoral to turn those guns on Native Americans in order to steal their land. Likewise, if an individual is armed with a gun and coming after you or your family, plug away at the bastard. But if an unarmed crack-head is trying to steal your television, is it really moral to shoot that fellow when you could use a non-lethal means of subduing the person until the police get there? (Use a taser or baseball bat) Some disagree, but I think it’s moral to hunt game if you are using the animal for food, controlling a population or defending your livestock. But just shooting a critter because it’s fun is immoral. And fantasizing about getting the chance to plug someone in self-defense is also immoral. We should do everything in our power to avoid ever reaching that state.
One other question for everyone: Why is it a good thing, a moral thing, to collect and shoot weapons of death and destruction? Shouldn’t we actually be incredibly reluctant, as human beings, to use a firearm since we know what they are meant to do? So yes Mark, I believe morals are alive and well in America, I just wonder what yours are.
If i have to listen use the term assault weapon once more my brain is coming out of my ears and nose. We need to begin correcting this idiots every time they open their mouths. The difference between assault rifle and semi-auto is non-existent to them. They lie thru their teeth and getting to my nerves. They say this assault rifles been seen by our such and such on the battlefield, referring to the M-16 and M-4 carbine that are total different creatures, on their selector fire format. Some one needs to begin bitch slapping this idiots. I can’t watch the news anymore, because some idiot is gonna say something really stupid and my heart beat is gonna go thru the roof.
Mark,
I truly believe we need to change the way we deliver our side of the argument. We cannot deliver our message by utilizing just dry facts and charts alone. We need to employ some good old fashion PR/marketing techniques! We need to offer up examples that are just as emotionally charged, of how someones life were saved. We need to sell our position just as much as the “Anti’s” have sold their heart tugging examples of how allegedly evil “we” are. And if that mean’s buying radio and TV add time, then so be it. The NSSF needs to step up as well as the Brownnell’s and Potterfield’s. Not to mention the trainers, too. We need to push social media as well.
No more Wayne LaPierre’s, more S.E. Cupp’s, Sandy Jackson’s, and Susanna Hupp’s just to name a few. We need to get a fire lit under our side! Provide a shovel for those with their heads burred in the sand, and some astroglide for other’s to help them remove their head’s from the nether regions of their anatomy. We need Ken Blanchard, “Shawn-to” and others to pump up the civil rights aspect of this debate as well.
You don’t want to get on the same slippery slope we here in California have been living with.
Thanks for taking the time to read my rantings……….
Mike
Long Beach CA
PS The Game Aint Over Till We Win!
If all it takes to stop violence is to take away our guns why dont we look at prisons. No guns their but prisoners have no problem finding ways to kill and injure guards and other prisoners. And they manage to do so with weapons, not just their bare hands.
Love the show want
@Matt: Think about what you wrote. 1) No one assumes “taking” away guns will stop violence. But we know that making it harder for violent people to acquire guns would reduce the amount of harm they could do. 2) Very few people want to take away all guns. Most of us realize that only responsible, mentally stable folks should be allowed to acquire weapons. Thus, what would YOU do to prevent violent types from acquiring weapons?
Merry christmas everyone.
Mark, is there anywhere I can get AAR hat, Tee’s or swet shirts?
These would make it much easyer to get the word out about your show.
Regards Phil.
Hey Mark,
I want to wish you, Shonto, Ogre, David, and everyone a Merry Christmas. Got a crossbreed supertuck deluxe holster for my Glock 23 from my sister and I’m wearing it right now breaking it in. As usual keep up the good work and the fight. We all need to stick together right now.
Best regards,
Keith
Benton, Ky.
Dear Mark,
You know that website you talk about that has the petitions to the White House?? There’s a petition there to DEPORT Piers Morgan for his comments during the interview with Larry Pratt. I signed it. It has almost 40,000 signatures. That means the White House has to respond. Wonder what they’ll say??
P.S. Just bought a new Kahr Arms CM9. NICE!!!!
Your friend in Las Vegas
Suzie Wojtkiewicz
Heard your broadcast for the first time the other day while driving from Kansas to Wisconsin and hope to continue listening if I can find a station here in Wisconsin.
I am a United States Navy Service Connected Disabled Veteran fully retired as of Sept 2011. I have spent my life supporting and defending this country but more so, supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States of America. And I will continue to do so.
This situation we now are faced with continues to remind me of the oath I took: To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic… In my eyes, that is exactly what we are now faced with, the domestic side of the threat.
I will never willingly give up my firearms nor my 2nd amendment right to the same. My hope is that those who usually sit on the sideline and wait and see will, this time, stand up and speak out before it happens.
Right now we are letting the vocal anti gun minority hold sway and hold the power over this country. When is the pro gun movement going to stand up and really start speaking out loudly at the level these anti gun groups are?
I agree with Ltc Grossman about calling these murderers “active shooters” is wrong. Lets call them homicidal maniacs. What I have a question for LTC Grossman ….there are the sheep and the sheep dogs. the sheep dogs protect the sheep. the sheep dog has a master; government. what happens when the master is asking the sheep dog to something illegal or immoral or unconstitutional? most big city police departments are run by anti-gun police commissioners or chiefs that got their job through patronage or being in the right party. i live in Maryland and it is no secret that top police leaders in this state were appointed by democrats and they tow the line on gun control. What will the sheep dogs do when they are ordered to confiscate guns of law abiding citizens or conduct a raid using heavily militarized swat teams that exist only because of federal grants? most police officers I know in this state own semi auto military style rifles. will they turn theirs in if they are banned? will they be exempted because they are police officers? this is a uneasy subject to bring up because most people regard the police as great guys and girls doing a thankless job, but when the government turns them on the citizens they will have a decision to make. keep my job and obey unconstitutional orders or become one of the unwashed rabble to be herded (sheep).
Good morning Mark,
My name is Justin Guinn, I have been listening to your program for some time now. I actually just finished up last weeks show a few minutes ago via Podcast. I set here in my home this cold Saturday morning in Oklahoma City truly saddened by recent and current events. After I finished up listening to your show this morning I couldn’t help but go into the bedroom of my two Beautiful little girls, 6 years old and 15 months old, and wonder what’s in store for their future. The mere thought of my girls being forced to live in a defenseless Country frightens me severally.
I am a die hard 24 year old; Spiritual Family man, Bill of Rights advocate and a serviceman at heart. I live by the core values that our founding fathers put in place for me. I am a lawfully possessing Handgun License holder in which I utilize any time I step foot out of my home. My Mother has been battling Cancer since April of this year. I run a Facebook fan page as well as a donation page on her behalf in an effort to get her story out to as many people as possible in an attempt to bring in prayers and donations. That commitment has taken up allot of my time. However, being the die hard that I am about my Country and its Values, I feel that I can no longer lye dormant and simply read over the never ending Facebook posts, news articles etc … The time has come for Me individually and Us as Americans to get and remain engaged indefinitely. Our Children depend on our combined efforts for their future, however prominent that future may be…
I am writing you this morning to simply say Thank You. To You, Seanto and to your continued brilliant guest speakers. I will hold you to your promise to remain on the Front lines of this ongoing battle! Just know that I too stand ready to join you in the fight for our freedoms and the Future Freedoms of our Children.
Be Safe and God Bless!
Happy NewYear!
Respectfully,
Justin Guinn
P.S I attempted email delivery of this message but continued delivery failures to mark@armedamericanradio.org lead me to posting this message here!
Mark;
I met you at the Gander Mountain event about a month or so ago. I mentioned to you that I had a book I was almost done with on the topic of Safe Schools. Its subtitle is “A Reasoned Call to Sanity
On the Issue of Arming Public School Teachers”
I would like to talk to you about this. If you agree, please give me an email shout and perhaps we can exchange phone numbers. I have an interest is obtaining endorsements and have some questions about White Feather Press.
Hope to hear from you.
Vern
Hello Moderator, please approve my comments or at the very least explain why you won’t allow differing viewpoints on your site.
Mark, Iam listening to the show as I do most every week here in Bloomington Il and I just missed meeting you in St Louis at the NRA extravaganza (my first). Wouldn’t this be a whole different conversation if it had been one or more terrorists at Newtown as happened in Beslan? Another interesting conversation I heard earlier this week was about the many different countries throughout history that confiscated guns and then within just a few years slaughtered many of their own unarmed citizens. Keep on the pressure , we’re out here listening.
Sincerely,
Dr Mike
Mark -
Looks like Comcast may have a block on your mark@armedarmedamericanradio.org email address as they are seeing your volume as possible spam.
Hey Mark,
I’m a new listener of your show and I’m very thankful for AAR’s voice in protecting our Second Amendment rights. I agree with Keith’s message above. I have not heard on any Pro-2nd Amendment shows that we need to be urging our congressman to not support the legislation that Dictator Feinstein is trying to pass. I think that if there is enough of a voice directed to our local politicians urging to protect our rights or get out, we would have a better shot at destroying this potential legislation. I would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks,
Javier
Proud Gun Owner Since 2007
I will let it be kown to all your listeners that you are scensoring responses in your forums. Who’s side are you on ? Possibly a fraud ? Lmao.. There was othing wrong with my post yet you did not put it through. Lookout my friend. Your readers and listeners will hear about this.
Mark,
If hoplophobia is an irrational fear of guns. What is it when you have an irrational desire to have more guns? My wife wants to know. She can’t understand why I always want another gun no matter how many I already have.
Robert W.
Valley, AL
Mark,
Last week, I sent a message to my Senator Maria Cantwell after I received a previous response to a past email. This time I received the same form letter back in 2 different responses. So I am encouraging everyone on my Facebook group Washington State for Gun Rights and Responsibility, send her a form email, which was my message in response to her last two form letters. It goes like this and was sent through the NRA ILA “write your reps” tab on the right side of the page. I encourage any of your Washington state listeners to do the same.
Senator Cantwell,
After receiving your previous responses and seeing they are all the same,
I will continue to respond until I can talk to an actual human and not a
form letter sent to anyone who responds to a certain topic. If you want to
take my rights away I will keep asking you why you support ineffective
laws, that do not protect anyone, as evil in all it’s forms, can never be
legislated out of existence.
Properly trained and armed people regardless of if they are police
officers, National Guard, Military, or civilian first responders should be
able to have what they need to defend themselves, the people they are
tasked to protect, and ensuring proper security of our schools from
terrorism.
I will email you again with more information senator. I am proud to be an
American and a Washingtonian, but above all I am a proud gun owner, and
will not just stand by and let some form letter tell me that my right to
defend myself is meaningless.
Thank you for your time senator I await your next response.
Sincerely,
Mark,
Great show. I download the podcasts every week as I live in Wa about 12 miles from Canada and radio reception sucks. I wanted to mention something I haven’t seen mentioned on any of the various sites and shows I go to on line. On Sen Feinsteins web page she says the bill she’s introducing has ‘been the works for over a year’. So, apparently the school in Conn is a ‘crisis she can’t waste’. What a piece of ‘work’ (keeping it clean). So much for the no nothing e-mail and letter to the editor writers. Keep up the good work, and tell the ogre liked his 10mm comments on his site, it’ my fav carry gun. Remember what Nancy Reagan said-’Just Say No’.
Phil Cartwright SFC (Ret) US Army. “Rangers Lead The Way”
Mark,
could you please mention that the Discovery Channel has stopped airing American Guns due to the pressure of the anti-gun crowd? love the show!
Ed Thomas
Veteran U.S Army Infantry
Davisburg, MI
I would like to thank you for being there to bring all the great info and ideas out in the open. If more people would listen to your show I am sure we would have less problems right now.
I was wondering, have not heard you mention it, but the report that the FBI puts out annually is really an eye opener. Gun related acts of violence are not really that high as compaired to other weapons, hands, etc.
The web site, http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk, provides some facts about the UK and their crime rate. Mr. Morgan sould ckeck his facts here, I think he would be better off.
Last I want to leave you an e-mail I got today, pretty much nails it.
Wow, is Illinois and Chicago great or what?
Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago ?
Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago .
221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.
President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin
House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel
The leadership in Illinois – all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .
Of course, they’re all blaming each other.
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.
Can’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois .
And he is going to ‘fix’ Washington politics for us???
George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.
Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is…that’s right, also in the big house.
And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago.
That is because he is fighting being sent to…that’s right, the big house.
The Land of Lincoln , where our governors make our license plates.
But you know what? As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population of Chicago , nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.
Thanks for doing a great job, please continue.
Tom Higginbotham
Arkansas
cdcollector1@gmail.com
The mob sold liquor when it wasn’t legal what keeps the cartels from selling guns to the bad guys of a ban happens
Mark as you are aware when bob was state sent.
He introduced bill that would have prevented
Posestion of all guns including a shot gun
For home protection.
Hey Mark love the show. I’m originally from Connecticut but now a resident
of Florida for 27 years. I have to correct you. The state was called the constitution state..
Now it’s called the “State of Confusion”
Being a resident of Maryland I often feel that with the liberal voters that constantly vote in these anti’s that it was an eventuality that we would have gun laws like California imposed on us. While this bothered me it did not scare me as I have family in PA or VA that I could just change my address and still get around any kind of BS legislation on the state level . Now with the last two mass shootings My ability to move out and escape the anti’s means moving out of the country all together . I have written my senators and representatives to no avail. I am a member of MSI Maryland Shall Issue, Gun Owners of America and I plan to save up for a lifetime membership in the NRA . Outside of planning for armed restianse
Being a resident of Maryland I often feel that with the liberal voters that constantly vote in these anti’s that it was an eventuality that we would have gun laws like California imposed on us. While this bothered me it did not scare me as I have family in PA or VA that I could just change my address and still get around any kind of BS legislation on the state level . Now with the last two mass shootings My ability to move out and escape the anti’s means moving out of the country all together . I have written my senators and representatives to no avail. I am a member of MSI Maryland Shall Issue, Gun Owners of America and I plan to save up for a lifetime membership in the NRA . Outside of planning for armed resistance what more can I do to protect our rights as gun owners .
Sometimes, you just hate being right about something. Sadly, this is one of those times. I’ve said it before many times on various message boards; ‘gun-free’ zones kill. That wasn’t exaggeration, that wasn’t hyperbole, it wasn’t something I said for effect – no, it’s a simple statement of fact. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill. You quite literally take your life in your hands every time you walk into one. And while it’s bad enough to take such a chance with your own life, it’s infinitely worse to subject your loved ones to such a danger…particularly your precious children. You dutifully entrust your babies to the care of people who – however well meaning – possess no means whatsoever to protect them, and then are horrified when those innocent lives are snatched away in a moment of unimaginable horror. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
People will tell you that their children are the most important thing in the world. I’m forced to wonder just how true that is. Our corrupt and contemptible politicians are protected day and night by people with guns. Our money is likewise protected by people with guns. Hell, even our parks and forests and football stadiums are protected by people with guns. But not your kids? You send them off to the Government school to hunker down behind a ‘No Guns Allowed’ sign with the expectation that they’ll somehow be safe? Really? ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
It’s been said by people far wiser than myself that the very definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results. How many times have we put up a ‘No Guns Allowed’ sign, only to have some murderous madman walk right past it in order to commit some monstrous act of mayhem? How many times? And yet we keep right on doing it, presumably with the expectation that the madman will pay attention to it ‘next time’. Really? A person ready, willing and able to murder his fellow human beings in cold blood is going to be stopped by a sign? Because he doesn’t want to break that particular law? Seriously? It sounds idiotic precisely because it is so idiotic. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
Looking at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence website, I see that Connecticut scored a 58 out 100, earning themselves three out of four stars. Connecticut is therein described as having ‘strong gun laws’, and placed 5th overall in the nation. Presumably, they have lots and lots of signs. Great…how did that work out for you all? Far as I’m concerned, the Brady Campaign, and all their fellow travelers inside and outside of Connecticut, have the blood of those children on their hands today. And I mean that quite literally. Collectively, we as a society are guilty too. We’ve given these evil bastards an audience for far too long. We’ve pretended that ‘gun control’ was all about keeping us safe, when all it’s ever really been about is control. The Brady’s know it. The politicians who support their so-called ‘common sense’ legislation know it. And we damn sure should have been able to figure it out by now. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
Every time a tragedy like this occurs, we hear stories about the heroics of the people trapped within these killing zones. And my heart goes out to them. They do the best they can under the circumstances, and they often save a few lives in the process, often at the expense of their own. And yet it sickens me that they’re repeatedly deprived of the one tool that would do them the most good. The one tool that might actually stop a tragedy before it becomes a tragedy. Because these heroes are law-abiding citizens. Unlike the monsters that have come to slaughter them, they’ve actually paid attention to those deadly little signs. And so they hide and cower, and pray that other people with guns will come and save them before they’re picked off like helpless sheep. All allegedly in the name of their safety and security. It’s utter crap. The Brady’s know it’s crap. The Schumer’s, the Feinstein’s, the McCarthy’s, and the Bloomberg’s of the world all know it’s crap. Even the dictator wannabe in the White House knows it’s crap. They all know that ‘gun-free’ zones kill.
Let me be blunt here. Schumer, Feinstein, McCarthy, Bloomberg, and our illustrious Dictator-in-Chief don’t give a damn about a bunch of dead kids in Connecticut. They couldn’t care less. Those children are nothing more than cannon fodder in their unholy war against our constitutionally protected right to self-defense. Because the Founders understood – far better than we, apparently – that the Schumer’s, Feinstein’s, McCarthy’s, and Bloomberg’s of the world are exactly the reason why we needed a Second Amendment in the first place. These kinds of people have always existed. These pompous, self-righteous hypocrites – protected by small armies of heavily armed security personnel – seek nothing more and nothing less than total control over your life. Because they think they’re better than you, and they think they know better than you. And if they have to step over the bodies of your murdered children to achieve their ends, they’ll gleefully do it. And they’ll sleep just fine tonight, rest assured. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
So where are we today? The usual suspects are howling about the need for more stringent gun control, more laws, more restrictions, and more deadly little signs. And they may just get their wish this time around. It seems that the body count is never quite high enough to satiate their blood lust when it comes to stripping us of our rights. So we’ll put up still more signs and witness still more murder and mayhem, in a never ending spiral of death and degradation, until we’re nothing more than unarmed subjects. And then the killing will really begin. Not by the hand of some random – or not so random – lunatic, but by the hands of the very people claiming they were doing all this to protect us. Because this story always ends the same way, without exception. It’s as inevitable as the day is long. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
What to do? Fight back against the lies and distortions. Engage people in meaningful conversation. Tell them about the history of the Second Amendment and why it exists. Tell them what’s happened to other people who’ve lost their unalienable right to defend their lives and their property. Tell them that it can and most assuredly will happen here. And if you’re not a member of the NRA (or some other gun advocacy group if the NRA is totally unpalatable to you), then why the hell not? If even half of the gun owners in this country were NRA members, these lying, conniving, fiendish control freaks in Washington wouldn’t dare suggest any further restrictions on our freedoms. And for God’s sake, gun owners need to stop all the infighting and bickering. This ‘my gun is good but those guns are bad’ attitude does nothing but help our enemies. The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting. It’s about our inherent right to defend ourselves and our families and to resist the affronts of a tyrannical government. Anyone who tells you any differently is either woefully ignorant, or else they’re flat out lying to you. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
Rest assured, more deaths are coming. When good men and women are denied the right to defend themselves, bad men will come a calling. That much is guaranteed. Clearly, there are issues we need to address in terms of mental health, loneliness, depression, human dignity, and so forth. But regardless of how thoroughly and thoughtfully those issues are attended to, there will always be some small percentage of people who fall through the cracks, or are simply beyond all help. They too have always existed. They seek out the weak and defenseless, and they understand that there’s no better hunting ground than a ‘gun-free’ zone. It’s time we accept this simple reality. ‘Gun-free’ zones kill.
How can we keep these horrible mass shootings from occurring? Armed guards in elementary schools doesn’t seem like something a democratic, free society should have to have. If it isn’t officially armed guards but instead select, specially trained teachers with guns stored in a secure location where students could not have access, that sounds better. However, by the time the trained professional gets to the scene of a murder in progress, many people may have already been killed.
Guns can kill “bad guys” and protect good guys, but what else can we do to prevent these massacres before guns even need to be involved? I’d like to hear some ideas about that from the pro-gun folks. I’m not necessarily for taking anyone’s legally owned and responsibly used guns, but a viable alternative needs to be offered for preventing these situations and I’m not satisfied with the guns in schools option. The same thing could have happened (and does) anywhere. How do we stop that?
Mark,
I have heard several media outlets debate arming the teachers and the argument always seems to come back around to how comfortable will the teachers be carrying a firearm on their person and that we can’t expect them to do that. “They aren’t law enforcement” Ive heard by many.
My idea for a work-around to this problem is simple. Biometric safes are becoming cheaper by the year. I feel that every classroom should have one inside the room bolted to the block wall next to the door. The teacher doesnt have to carry the firearm daily, however in the event of a lockdown situation they would simply walk over, lock the door, insert their finger on the scanner and now that teacher is armed and can protect her cubs. Further more it puts to rest the idea of a student potentially “disarming” a teacher and using the gun.
Out of sight, out of mind, yet thankfully remembered in dire circumstances.
I plan on going to my schools superintendent with this idea with the hopes it will gain traction. I have 3 kids I reluctantly send to school everyday. I have a dog in the fight and for the sake of every child’s protection lets hope officails have their listening ears on.
Mark, I have become a fan of your radio program recently. I am also a fan of Lt Col Dave Grossman and received his DVD’s when I joined the USCCA. They were an eye opener.
I have had a CCW for the past 25 year, but rarely carried until the Aurora MURDERS. After lstening to the Colonels DVD’s I am carrying everyday. I recently posted the follwoing on my Facebook page and have recevied many good comments. I used the Colonels “Denial Kills you Twice message. Here it is:
We are living in interesting times. We have a lot to be concerned about. All of you have seen my many posts about our rights. The shooting in the Aurora shocked me. I think the reason was that just a few days before me and Katie went to see a movie and I noticed on the door a “No Firearms” sign. I didn’t pay a whole lot of attention to it as I was not carrying at the time. News of the theater shooting a couple days later woke me up as I thought what would have happened to my daughter if the shooting happened in the theater we were in?
A wise friend told me something once “denial kills you twice.” It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: You didn’t bring your gun; you didn’t train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. My friends, hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by fear, helplessness, horror and shame at your moment of truth. I thought to myself, what if something had happened to Katie and I survived? How could I live with myself knowing that maybe I could have protected her, and others, had I had my firearm? Denial does kill twice, and we are on the verge of having that “right of protection” taken away from us by political irresponsible’s looking for “points” from their constituents. I hope and pray I am never in a position to have to use force to end a violent confrontation, and the odds are in my favor I won’t, but don’t take away my right to do so if I am ever put into that position. I am not a crazy “gun rights” person who wants hundreds of guns, but I am an American, with rights given to me by the blood of my father, grandfather, great grandfathers and others. I take those rights seriously, as should you and I pray that none of you are ever put in a position in which denial kills you twice. Let your voice be heard.
I will do all I can to protect the rights of each and every America. I will volunteer, work late, early and voice my opinion as much as I can. If you have any helpful ideas to get the word out more, please let me know. I am an America, proud to be one, and will do my best to keep this country as it should be, FREE!
God bless you and all you do and for sticking your neck out unlike the “turtles” that you protect as well. God Bless America!
Odd View of Gun Control–Ever since Aurora, and especially since Sandy Hook, there has been talk of gun control. Some of this talk comes from people who are afraid of guns out of ignorance. Some comes from people who are convinced all weapons and violence is evil because of beliefs that life is sacred and peace sacrosanct. Others want gun control because they are told they want it and don’t bother to think for themselves. One and all, they are driven by laziness and ignorance, and many are motivated by a fanaticism that closes their minds and blinds them to the truths of the matter. They believe that the size of a magazine, the rate of fire, folding stocks, flash suppressors and even the superficial design of a gun is responsible for the deaths in a shooting. They act as if they can stop killings by outlawing guns that are “more dangerous” than others. The level of deadliness somehow determines whether or not people will be killed by the gun in their minds. Such dangerous things can’t be allowed in a civilized society is part of their beliefs and mantras.
Such beliefs show their ignorance quite well for they do not have the intelligence to see their own hypocrisy. If they were truly concerned with outlawing dangerous things, they would be focused on the First Amendment, which is far more deadly than the Second. They would be focused on doing away with free speech, which is far more dangerous than any gun ever made. It was speech and belief that killed thousands of witches and heretics in Europe before the gun was ever made. It was speech and belief that allowed people like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao and more to do what they did. Guns may have backed them but without the speech to win the hearts of the people wielding those guns they would have been nothing and, at most, done something like Timothy McVeigh. The belief that doing away with the tool will do away with the problem is a symptom of a problem that is far more dangerous than any weapon ever made. It is a symptom of a people who lack understanding of human nature and the will to tackle the true problem because it is difficult. It is a symptom of a people who will allow them to be stripped of their freedoms to feel safe and avoid doing what is difficult. It is a symptom of the people who have willingly participated in every genocide in history. It is a symptom of the adult child, the person unwilling to admit that every problem in society stems from people because, to do so, they would have to acknowledge their own culpability in those problems. The problem can’t be outlawed because it is an intangible thing called thought. Outlawing guns, speech, religion and any other item or behavior does absolutely nothing but give power to those who have manipulated their way into being chosen as the enforcers of such prohibitions. Eventually people run out of things to outlaw and to keep the people happy in their illusion that the problem is something besides them, people themselves are outlawed and you get things like the holocaust. All you are doing when you vote for gun control is giving your control of your gun to the faceless, blameless and heartless bureaucracies of the Federal Government. With this blatantly obvious truth in mind it should be obvious to everyone that a leader promoting gun control is really interested in people control first with safety of the people a far distant second.
Dear Mark,
Love your program. I listen to it via Podcast every week at work. Keep up the good work. My stance on guns has always been the same; guns are the ultimate equalizer. A gun is the only tool that allows an elderly woman to protect herself from an evil person regardless of his/her size or strength. Owning a gun is synonymous with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
However, it is only recently that I finally put myself in the game to fight the good fight against those who would take my rights away. I recently joined the NRA and wrote my US representative to voice my concern about proposed gun control legislation. There is no more time to sit on the sidelines. Every American needs to contact their Representative/Senator and voice their concerns. It only takes 10 minutes and if every gun owner who is serious about their rights puts in the time, Washington will not dare to pass any more unlawful gun control legislation.
Keep up the good work Mark.
Sincerely,
Taylor Ehrick
Below is the letter I sent to Trent Franks:
Dear Representative Franks,
I am proud that my house representative voted against the irresponsible fiscal cliff deal. I hope that you will take a similar stance against additional gun control legislation. Please be aware that the 2nd Amendment protects my right to protect myself and my family from those who wish us harm (be it evil homicidal maniacs and/or an oppressive government). The words “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state…” were carefully chosen by the Founding Fathers to ensure that Americans are guaranteed the tools to protect themselves from harm.
Please keep up the fight against more unlawful gun control measures that only take guns out of the hands of good, lawful abiding citizens. Please consider a vote for any gun control measure as a vote against you in all future elections. If you decide to vote for any gun control measures, I will work with my local NRA representative to ensure you do not get reelected. I have been a fan of yours for a while and would hate to change that. However, this is a fundamental issue for me and I will not waver.
Sincerely,
Taylor Ehrick
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”
-Wayne LaPierre
I do not see how making another law will help. The cold blooded murder of the children was done by breaking twenty laws. Criminals by definition are law breakers! As for the person claiming that the government is not out to confiscate our guns, where has his head been stuck? All he needs to do is listen to Fienstein,Odumba, and the liberals in congress and on CNN that spew their assault rifle BS. This information is on the news daily about gun confiscation.
There are no restrictions in our Second Amendment about what kind of weapons we can bear, when or where we are allowed or not allowed to bear arms. The Second Amendment is what guarantees the entire Constitution!
What If a 20-Year Old Driving a Sports Car at 135+ MPH Hit a
School Bus and Killed 26 Kids?
What would be the nationwide reaction?
Would people be questioning how such an inexperienced youth was able to obtain access to such a car?
Would we hear people questioning “why does anyone need a high performance (ie, high capacity) automobile”?
Would there be calls to stop the manufacture, importation and sale of cars that could reach speeds of 200 mph?
Would there be calls to install governors on all new cars, preventing them from exceeding 75 mph? (after all, you might only need the extra 10 mph in special circumstances over and above the 65 mph limit)
Would there be calls for stricter background checks on the people attempting to purchase such cars?
Would there be calls for people to take an intensive safety course before being allowed to purchase or drive such cars?
Would NASCAR, Indy Car and the NHRA be demonized for promoting and glamorizing high speed and obviously unsafe driving?
Would people question the car show culture and encourage such shows being banned from being held on public property?
Would there be a call for a ban on private sales of high speed cars at car shows, thus helping close the “car show loophole”?
Would there be a call to end any private sales of automobiles, and that all such transactions had to be made through a licensed dealer?
Would people demand that magazines that give detailed steps on how to make performance enhancements to vehicles be removed from newsstands?
Would it be pointed out that nowhere does it say that anyone has a “right” to own such a vehicle?
Would critics say that when the founding fathers of the automobile industry first envisioned the concept of affordable private transportation for the masses, that they never intended for their inventions to reach such outrageous speeds?
Would the accident be discussed ad nauseam for over a month on the 24/7 news channels?
Would the fact that all of the nation’s local televisions stations and national networks accept millions of dollars in advertising each week from the automotive industry have any bearing on whether the above happened or not?
(And when was the last time you saw an ad for a firearms or ammunitions manufacturer on a mainstream television channel? Could there be a correlation?)
Mark,
Let me preface this letter by saying I am not Hal. I am a conservative, 29 year old, military brat, Christian, Two-Time Iraq Veteran who grew up with a wonderful set of parents, and my father passed his love of shooting and hunting on to me. I carry to protect myself, my loved ones, and my peers, and I have feared since Obama Day 1 that something would happen to our Gun rights. His history in Chicago was a clear warning sign of that. I am of no illusion that this man, along with Hitler, Feinstein, and Stalin, hate’s our freedoms and hates us. I am a mechanic on EMS helicopters and my job has me traveling quite often, sometimes into Obama’s old backyard, the gun hating state of Illinois. (The people of IL don’t hate guns, the legislators do.) Looking for good talk radio podcasts to listen to when I started this job a few months back, I stumbled across Armed American Radio and let’s just say it fits me like my Para Double Stack .45 fits my crossbreed supertuck. Thanks for what you do and keep the show coming, I LOVE listening to it.
Now, that being said, on to the question.
I’ve heard you express concerns quite often on the show of Obama’s ability to pass Executive Orders as the president. This is obviously a threat to our gun rights, and to have someone in this position passing policy on gun laws based off of emotion and not based on popular vote, or cold hard facts, would be an atrocity. However, my understanding of a presidents executive order powers limit him to passing policy on government offices only. I will admit I may be grossly misinformed on this, and will continue to research this question on my own, but hope that perhaps you could address this question in some depth on your radio show to specify what possibilities are on the horizon, with a dictator-wannabe like Obummer in the oval office.
Again, Thanks for all you do and continue getting the message out there. I look forward to more long drives on the interstate listening to the truth be told. Pass my appreciation to Shawn-to, too. Can never leave the ‘sidekick’ out.
Jeremy Sizemore
Georgetown IN
Mark Walters,
The first two paragraphs of my original message is now old news. Two Sundays of failure to send and the erasure of my email and saved drafts make me wonder. Possibly successful last night but not sure. Sending to your site and not from my provider may be more sure.
Did you know that in the past week, one Mike Adams posted this quote on his face book page from Mohandas Ghandi. “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.” – Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446. Facebook then took down Adams’ page, effectively censuring anti gun-control comments. Adams’ page was reinstated with a final warning. Meanwhile, facebook postings calling for the murder of Wayne LaPierre were not censured.
LaPierre’s television appearance Sunday Dec. 23 made apparent the he had not read MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME and could be a more competent representative for gun rights. Rather than armed guards in every school, simply ALLOWING teachers to be armed would greatly deter suicicdal cowards from entering schools (John Lott).
Update: News stories and “Conservative” hosts like Hannity still push the NRA’s call for armed guards.
I bought my very first firearm (in 1991?), an AR-15 from a Vietnam Vet in a wheel chair with a gun shop, three days after George H.W. Bush stated (a day or two after the Stockton, California (McDonald’s?) massacre), “Maybe we should reconsider banning ‘assault’ rifles.”
In my opinion, both partries are working for something other than American sovereignty. One ‘side’ favors global corporatism which is destroying American economic power and independence by forcing American workers to compete with third world wages, effectively centralizing economic power globally via the global labor/wage pool.
The other side favors globally recentralizing government via the United Nations dictators club. Together, global government and global corporatism equal global facsism. American economic and political power must be eliminated to make global domination by the world’s elite possible.
Overwhelming circumstancial evidence points to complicity by our own government elites as they cooperate with and represent Saudi Arabia, China, Russia (despite apparent conflict) and the conquistadores whom still rule Mexico. Undermining border enforcement morale is intended to populate America with a more docile people, content to be the poorly compensated servants of the global elite – which includes democrats and republicans.
WHY WE NEED SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES WITH 30 ROUND MAGAZINES
Both “parties’ have also been importing many third world, muslim immigrants. 50,000 student visas from Saudi Arabia alone are issued each year. Thousands of muslim prayer rugs have been found at our southern border. Thousands of Islamist cells are here waiting for chaos to begin to become the first wave of Obama’s “Civlian National Defense Force…….well equipped” with semi and fully automatic rifles.
Spetznaz troops like those encountered by veterans hiking along the (appalachian?) trail (Steve Quayle .com) may be the second wave and “save the day.” Their former leader and the former head of the East German Stasi are both here (Steve Quayle) training with both their and American troops. George W. Bush gave the Chinese military permission to forcibly take control of their real estate had our economy collapsed in 2007/2008 (Steve Quayle). These forces will surely have fully automatic rifles but will still suffer heavy casualties if Americans are not first disarmed.
Does Dianne Feinstein, whose husband financially profits from Chinese trade legislation she votes on (and who just sold his 25% share of Current TV) know this? Does Nancy Pelosi, whose husband benefited by $25 billion from the housing debacle and her votes? No doubt. Is collaborating with America’s enemies no longer high treason? Do they really think they will be included in the new global tyranny when their usefulness expires? Is this ‘inclusion’ why republicans say nothing to the blatantly obvious treason in their midst? Have they all not learned from history?
The willfully ignorant and uneducated progressives I’ve known since attending high school during the Vietnam War protests invariably believe they know how the rest of us should live our lives and are the most unhappy and hateful people (and friends) I’ve ever known. Will the global utopia they’ve been led to envision and pay obeisance to include them? They apparently think so. They must foolishly believe that their loyalty to and perseverence for the disarmed and ‘peaceful’ perfect world to come will somehow honor and reward them.
Meanwhile, their constitutionally patriotic, liberty minded friends, relatives and America’s veterans will necessarily be killed and imprisoned to pave the way to the new utopian order. Will they open their eyes before it’s too late?
Chris L
Sounds like you like to read and think yourself ( I know it all ).
Read what was said by an other thinker. Pay attention to item # 6
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe .” — Thomas Jefferson
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
– Thomas Jefferson
“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.”
– Thomas Jefferson
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” — Thomas Jefferson
“My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” — Thomas Jefferson
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” — Thomas Jefferson
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
– Thomas Jefferson
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
I wish we could get this out to everyone!
I’m doing my part. Please do yours.
P
Mark and Sean…great show, really enjoy the podcasts which I just discovered last week. Keep up the great work!!!
I read that the president has vastly extend secret service coverage for life. It sailed through and was signed (of course.)
This is a president, so riddled with guilt, that he fears the people he helps govern. Gun control isn’t about keeping us (the people) safe. Politicans care not one whit about our safety and wealfare. Gun control is about keeping those in power safe when they transgress against us. The innocent walk blithly through where the guilty fear every shadow and noise.
What do I need to do to insure that I can get the weekly broadcasts of Armed American Radio. The Facebook link says that there is a weekly Sunday broadcast. I am a registered concealed weapon carrier in Indiana. I am interested in listening to the broadcast and hearing what Mark has to say. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thomas James Norton, quote re:2nd Amendment from the book “The Constitution of the United States its Sources and its Applications, The World Publisgihn Co. Ny NY 1941
“This prohibition upon the Nation means that it can never interfere with the people who make the milita of the States, and that therefore the States will always have the means to check by physical force any usurpation of authority not given to the Nation by the Constitution.”
It’s 25 degrees here in Oklahoma City, but nothing beats grilling while armed! Charcoal, not propane!
Armed with my Taurus 709 Slim!
Looking forward to tomorrow’s show! Fight on America.
God Bless!
Justin G.
Hi folks,
I am a big fan of the show and I listen to it every week on podcasts. I like what I hear and I would like to ask a question. Do you really think that the liberals really care what happens in the country or do they, as you put it, “drink the koolaid” so much that they just listen to what people in power and other highly visable positions (news) tell them? I was talking with a buddy of mine and when he was at work he was talking with a fellow employee and a liberal overheard that they both have AR-15 weapons and was shocked and awed that they have “Assault Weapons”.
I am a very big fan of my handguns that I do own, and I have served our nation in the Army. I do not understand why they are calling for all the weapons to be either seized or banned or whatever they think they can get away with. If you take the guns from the honest gun weilding people then all you have left is victims waiting for a place to have something bad happen to them. I would love to get an AR eventually but as it stands right now I dont see that happening with the current inflation in prices. But that AR, whatever I get, is nothing more than a tool and the DAY it jumps off that table and shoots someone on its own, maybe I will change my stance on guns. For now I am a proud gun owner and I will not have my rights taken away from me.
It is my belief that if you want to be a politician I think that they should have military service behind them first. Anyone that wants to help run the country should have some sort of military or police service behind them. Maybe then we would get some politicians in power that would understand that guns are tools and not on their own evil.
Thanks fer listening to me and (if this gets posted) posting this
Why did you remove my comment?
I learned from gun talk radio that through this toll free number—-888-678-7894 —- you can get a life time membership for 300.00 .. just signed up even though I was making payments for 600.00
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Mark, I just wanted to share an analogy with you concerning limiting the size of magazines. To limit the size of magazines thinking that it will decrease the number of gun fatalities makes about as much sense as limiting the size of automobiles,vans,buses, to decrease the number of fatalities in traffic accidents. Do we think that if we ban all 7,9,12,and 15 passenger vans and ban all tour buses and school and mass transit buses and limit the capacity of motor vehicles to just 5 passengers, and let’s not even mention amtrack trains,that this will decrease the number of traffic fatalities,and save the lives of thousands of children.Oh and if you don’t aggree with this policy then you must not care about kids.
Just try to get something like this passed.
signed: Keeping my 30 round magazines.
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