Phil VanCleave of the VCDL-Virginia Citizens Defense League was unable to join me so I took a few phone calls from across the country one of which was George Hill, The Mad Ogre.  The discussion turned pretty heated for a minute when I really couldn’t wrap my head around the freedom haters and nut jobs that want to strip us of our freedoms.  It was a spirited discussion and one that I think you’ll enjoy.  I’ll try to get Phil back on the broadcast as soon as possible.

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